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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 9 @ 10:19 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Not Pretty, But Much Needed
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Oct 9 @ 10:24 AM ET
Excellent blog, Bill.


Barring any health issues from Emery or Mason, it looks like goaltending won't be an issue this year.

The Flyers still look like they want to be a pretty, perimeter passing team.


They havent quite kicked the habit of having late period letdowns.

I feel like Mason stole that game, and if the team doesnt play better this weekend, they could have a couple long nights against Phoenix and Detroit.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 9 @ 10:25 AM ET
I could see the foundation of what Berube wants to do in last nights game, but they have a ways to go.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Oct 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
One thing I was highly impressed by: at the the very end of the game, when the Panthers needed possession badly, the Flyers managed to win the all the battles for the puck along the boards and in the corners.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Oct 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Not Pretty, But Much Needed
- bmeltzer

no playoffs this season.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
Mason 9 starts with Flyers. Save % .939

Small sample size yes, but very nice to see.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Oct 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
no playoffs this season.
- watsonnostaw



its an 82 game season, go troll the Thrashers foru... oh, wait. nevermind.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Oct 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
the panther's goal was set up by grossman who had the puck in the neutral zone with under 40 secs left and decided to rip it into the bench! what are these guys thinking about? almost anything else right there and time ticks down, and Heaven forbid they actually form some kind of offensive rush against the other team to finish the period. it seems no body has any confidence with the puck and just ships it off as soon as they touch it.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Oct 9 @ 10:31 AM ET
its an 82 game season, go troll the Thrashers foru... oh, wait. nevermind.
- Doc_Sarcasm

he could but he'd be trolling himself
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 9 @ 10:31 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Not Pretty, But Much Needed
- bmeltzer


Luck just happens. Sometimes in your favor, sometimes not.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 9 @ 10:32 AM ET
Hartnell-G-Simmonds seems like a really dangerous combination, but not in a good way. Putting two guys who have trouble skating and puckhandling with Giroux isn't going to work.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 9 @ 10:33 AM ET
I have been very happy with the play of Brayden Schenn.. He was easily the most dangerous forward on the ice last night IMO. He had 4 or 5 high quality chances to go with his goal, and was a pest around the net all night. Hopefully he can continue to build on that.

Rinaldo has two hits already this year that are of the "I think that dude just poop his pants" variety. What a beauty of a hit on Shore.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 9 @ 10:35 AM ET
Hartnell-G-Simmonds seems like a really dangerous combination, but not in a good way. Putting two guys who have trouble skating and puckhandling with Giroux isn't going to work.
- Feanor

Schenn-G-Voracek
Hartnell- VL- Read
Simmonds-Couts-Talbot
Rinaldo-Hall-Newbury
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Oct 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
I have been very happy with the play of Brayden Schenn.. He was easily the most dangerous forward on the ice last night IMO. He had 4 or 5 high quality chances to go with his goal, and was a pest around the net all night. Hopefully he can continue to build on that.

Rinaldo has two hits already this year that are of the "I think that dude just poop his pants" variety. What a beauty of a hit on Shore.

- jak521




Right now, B. Schenn seems to be the one guy always willing to skate through the middle of the ice and challenge the opposition in front of the net. I wish we would see a little more of that from the rest of the team.

I really wish Rinaldo had a little more offensive upside. I love his attitude and energy and he seems to be picking his spots fairly well so far this season.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 9 @ 10:37 AM ET
Fantastic blog. Felt much better coming home after a win from last night.
It was a step in the right direction, but I thought about something last night.

In the 2009 offseason, the Flyers made a series of acquisitions. The big one was Chris Pronger. The other key ones were Ian Laperriere, Blair Betts, and Ray Emery.

These were all the kind of guys who filled very specific roles, and played a very specific way. Aside from Pronger, they weren't the flashy big-name superstars, but they were key role players who had a well-defined spot on the team.

The past few years, it seems like the Flyers have reverted to throwing big money at big names (Lecavalier, Streit) and/or by putting players in the wrong position (Foster, JvR, Coburn), or scraping the bottom of the barrel for their needs (Newbury, Foster, Gervais). I remember being very excited about the 2009 acquisitions, as those were all character guys. The past few offseasons, it seems more like we're putting the square peg in the round hole.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 9 @ 10:37 AM ET
Hartnell-G-Simmonds seems like a really dangerous combination, but not in a good way. Putting two guys who have trouble skating and puckhandling with Giroux isn't going to work.
- Feanor



Hartnell Down was in full effect last night... there was one shift I recall where he flopped to the ice at least three times on body contact. He really bought that Gudbranson penalty, too. Offensively, it looks like Hartnell-G magic is all used up, especially that pass into the high slot on the PP.

Simmonds, I wouldn't mind see stay w/ Giroux for awhile. He has the legs, balance and puck control to do the job there.


Rosehill....
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 9 @ 10:39 AM ET
Detroit this Saturday could be UGLY.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 9 @ 10:39 AM ET
Right now, B. Schenn seems to be the one guy always willing to skate through the middle of the ice and challenge the opposition in front of the net. I wish we would see a little more of that from the rest of the team.

I really wish Rinaldo had a little more offensive upside. I love his attitude and energy and he seems to be picking his spots fairly well so far this season.

- Doc_Sarcasm


Schenn was the best forward out the last night, no doubt. Had a few great forced turnovers, and a few nice looks (the goal aside). Definitely would like to see that consistently.

Rinaldo was hitting people like they owed him money. Had a nice takeaway, but man, if he had even Carcillo-level offensive skill I'd take it.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 9 @ 10:40 AM ET
Luck just happens. Sometimes in your favor, sometimes not.
- bradleyc4


Exactly -- you can't control luck, manufacture it, summon it or produce it. There's no Mystical Luck Ritual that a team can perform. Mario Lemieux and Jaromir Jagr weren't more lucky than Stephen Weiss and Nathan Horton.

They were better players, with more speed, strength, hockey IQ, coordination/athletic ability. Teams with better players tend to find themselves in better positions on the ice, with more options available to them, some of the quality options that their increased skill and talent is able to capitalize on.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 9 @ 10:41 AM ET
Right now, B. Schenn seems to be the one guy always willing to skate through the middle of the ice and challenge the opposition in front of the net. I wish we would see a little more of that from the rest of the team.

I really wish Rinaldo had a little more offensive upside. I love his attitude and energy and he seems to be picking his spots fairly well so far this season.

- Doc_Sarcasm


I think Rinaldo has more offensive upside then we have seen, and just needs some time to develop some chemisty with linemates that can get him the puck and can take a pass. I could see him being a 15-20 goal scorer given the icetime.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 9 @ 10:42 AM ET
Detroit this Saturday could be UGLY.
- johndewar


Wait til Rosehill gets his hands on Probert.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Oct 9 @ 10:43 AM ET
Mason was incredible. Definitely the best Flyers player on the ice.

Ugh...they seriously struggled to get out of their own zone, and they couldn't maintain any pressure on offense. It was rough to watch. Without 2 fluky goals allowed by a salty old goalie who took last year off, this game could have been quite different...

They just aren't playing very well. But hopefully this win starts the rebuilding process, and they can beat up on Phoenix on Friday to move things even further along.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 9 @ 10:44 AM ET
I think Rinaldo has more offensive upside then we have seen, and just needs some time to develop some chemisty with linemates that can get him the puck and can take a pass. I could see him being a 15-20 goal scorer given the icetime.
- youarewrong


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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 9 @ 10:44 AM ET
Exactly -- you can't control luck, manufacture it, summon it or produce it. There's no Mystical Luck Ritual that a team can perform. Mario Lemieux and Jaromir Jagr weren't more lucky than Stephen Weiss and Nathan Horton.

They were better players, with more speed, strength, hockey IQ, coordination/athletic ability. Teams with better players tend to find themselves in better positions on the ice, with more options available to them, some of the quality options that their increased skill and talent is able to capitalize on.

- AllInForFlyers



Granted, their best offensive leaders right now aren't playing up to their historical abilities -- G and Kimmo are stuck in a rut.

They really need that additional winger that can score 20-25 goals, push Talbot down to the 4th-line, and push Rosehill to the AHL.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Oct 9 @ 10:44 AM ET
I think Rinaldo has more offensive upside then we have seen, and just needs some time to develop some chemisty with linemates that can get him the puck and can take a pass. I could see him being a 15-20 goal scorer given the icetime.
- youarewrong


Yup. I could see him putting in 10+ given a steady diet of 3rd line minutes.
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